"No lady can be justified in falling in love before a gentleman's love is declared, it must be very improper that a young lady should dream of a gentleman before the gentleman is first known to have dreamt of her."
"Every young lady may feel for the heroine in this critical moment... All have been, or at least all have believed themselves to be in danger from the pursuit or someone whom they wished to avoid, and all have been anxious for the attentions of someone whom they wished to please. "
"Matrimony and dancing... in both, man has the advantage of choice, woman only the power of refusal."
"Friendship is certainly the finest balm for the pangs of disappointed love."
Austen is just awesome.
I watched Pride and Prejudice again last night and just loved it. It engages my mind and absolutely melts my heart.
I am such a girl.
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now That quote's interesting, would u rather the advantage of choice or the power of refusal? Hmm..
In my opinion, I guess a combination of both would be good. Hahah. :D
What about you?
Down with love!!!!
You know, I actually thought that movie was about protesting against love. I didn't realize that it meant getting love as a disease until halfway thru.
I love Austen too!! I don't think Austen was one of my past lives though..haha.
Both would be ideal, and some are lucky enough to have that
The power of refusal is proportional to being the choice of many. That being said, for refusal to have any power, that person must be someone's choice first.
What good is refusal when there is nothing to refuse?
Hence choice leads the way in that sense..
Conversely, having many choices refused is no good either and that's where they are both linked to each other's existence
Haha I just realized I may have spammed ur comments section, my bad!
Jean: new shoes?
JJ, good point. It's true that refusal would be pointless if there wasn't anyone choosing you. And that choice bears the risk of being rejected.
Wah your reply there was like a snapshot of an academic essay la.
But i like it cos it's clear and it makes sense. (Oh gosh, teacher-talk).
Jean, don't think I've watched Down with love. Is it good?
You've seen it la. When I asked you to see it with me you said you had seen it and that it was just okay. I also think it's just okay la. Because seriously, DOWN WITH LOVE!!!!
I think I'd prefer an equal opportunity to choose and refuse.
In Austen's society though, I think things were a lot more different. Women who refused too many would end up having to support themselves and if you were a woman in that age, that just wasn't so feasible.
Plus I think that perhaps they had some sort of choice also la. A girl could choose a man to seduce and let him think that HE chose HER.
@JJ Yup, relatively new. Nice yeh?
Hahah, honestly Jean, I think girls still do that these days-Let the guys believe they've got the power in that sense.
And I don't remember watching that movie!! I think I've watched snippets of it. Not the full thing.
I find the first quote interesting too. About how it's sorta wrong for a lady to dream about a guy before he's made his affections known to her. Like wah, even considering a guy was inappropriate for a girl if he had not done so first.
Yeah...bloddy disgusting.
On the other hand, you could say that that's just some Austen wisdom right there..
think about it, girls have a tendency of falling for a guy simply cause he declared his love for her first. though at that moment the girl doesn't realise it.
what the quote talked about could be seen as a safety precaution against such infatuations..
just thought I'll look at it from a different angle :P
Well, it's not a sex thing. Guys also tend to fall for girls that they think have a thing for them.
It's just that in the quote, the guys are "allowed" to fall for girls that they think have a thing for them. Girls are only "allowed" to fall for guys after the declaration has been made.
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Yea, in some cases guys tend to as well.
but seriously, girls more so than guys.
plus infatuated guys tend to move on to the next target more quickly..haha
Maybe what austen said was mostly based on culture at that time. maybe a hyperbole to mock the absurdity of that culture ( i dont know! I don't know nuts about austen) .. In this case, I'm just reading between the lines, whether or not its the lines that austen drew..haha
I'll admit that a lot of girls are like that, as far as I know anyway. But I'm definitely not one of them and I move on pretty quickly. Rolling stone eh?
Yeah, a lot of her work was to mock the culture that she lived in.
And yeah, one of the reasons I think it seems like girls like guys because the guy likes them is because there's this whole categorization process that goes on every time a girl meets a guy.
When Kris and I talk about it we say, guy or Guy? And he'll either be a guy. Or a Guy. Or a guy who could be a Guy.
Haha...yup. And that's the only reason I can think of.
Guy or guy eh? haha.. I bet you two have a list!haha
Haha..no, not really. We don't keep track.
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